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08 August 2011 @ 01:15 am
open ears and open eyes.  

 
Oh hai thar.

There's nothing quite like sitting at home on a Sunday night with a bowl of Maltesers, comics and Bon Iver, is there?

MY WEEK HAS BEEN TRAGICALLY UNEVENTFUL. EXCEPT FOR THE SPRAINED ANKLE BUT THAT'S OKAY TOO. I fell from a mildly tall ladder and knees first into broad, leather books. 'Tis quite an odd thing, gravity.

But GAH. ANYWAY. MOVING ON.

NEW JOURNAL THEME. Made by the person who made my last one but noticeable change, no?

Just discovered another wonderful television show called Boardwalk Empire. The only miniature flaw is that they have a character called Lucy Dazinger; the show's answer to Game of Thrones' Ros. Except that Lucy is flat out disgusting and everything she says is sexual. But MICHAEL PITT. I WILL NEVER AGAIN WATCH YOUR MOVIE THE DREAMERS BUT IT WAS GOOD WHILE IT LASTED. The show is set in the 1920's during Prohibition, in Atlantic City. The show is gorgeous, fantasically acted and looks authentic. It's practically The Sopranos set in the 20th Century, and just as good.

And Super 8 did not disappoint in slightest; absolutely amazing.

YET I'M STILL PROCRASTINATING ABOUT FIC. Stuart/Ashley plot is there, the words aren't.

So I'mma go and geek out over The Cape and rape my keyboard with fic sentences I'll never finish. kthxbye.
 
 
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it's always darkest before the dawn.amelia_scars on August 8th, 2011 12:42 am (UTC)
I can see how it would be boring; it's more nail-biting tension than edge-of-the-seat anticipation.

It does get better as it continues, though. PRETTY PEOPLE ARE PRETTY.
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it's always darkest before the dawn.amelia_scars on August 8th, 2011 12:42 am (UTC)
THANK YOU, BB. ♥
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it's always darkest before the dawn.amelia_scars on August 8th, 2011 12:45 am (UTC)
Hello, Cesare indeed ;) /isn'tadmittingshewatchesthesmallgifsallthetime
Linndechir: realitylinndechir on August 8th, 2011 06:58 am (UTC)
Ouch, your poor ankle, I hope it'll get better soon.
Boardwalk Empire is all kinds of amazing. Steve Buscemi blows my mind. There must be a season 2 at some point, there must be!
it's always darkest before the dawn.amelia_scars on August 8th, 2011 03:57 pm (UTC)
Thank you, bb. It's fine now, just hurts the tiniest bit. :)

OH AND THERE WILL BE. I CANNOT CONTAIN THE EXCITEMENT. Screaming at my television wasn't going to make it come back any sooner, though. Steve Buscemi is incredible, an absolute chameleon. The whole cast in incredible. I blame the casting choices for my shameful crush on Michael Pitt, gah. And I find Nelson attractive in a strange way, too.
Linndechir: excitinglinndechir on August 8th, 2011 04:00 pm (UTC)
Glad to hear that. :) Last time I sprained my ankle I could barely walk for weeks.

I don't remember all that many details from season 1, I watched it when it first came out. That's almost a year ago by now, isn't it? I think I will have to rewatch it before season 2 comes, or else I'll just be confused all the time. ;)
I was almost afraid I wouldn't like Boardwalk Empire (because I found Mad Men pretty boring, and they both got the same kind of enthusastic "this is historically accurate and the best thing ever" reviews), but I loved it from episode 1. I hope Scorcese will be back to direct an episode.
it's always darkest before the dawn.amelia_scars on August 8th, 2011 04:18 pm (UTC)
I only started watching at the beginning of this month, and it's been little less than a year since it first came out. Well, hopefully they decide to do one of those "Previously on Boardwalk Empire." (They didn't do that enough in Season 1; when Jimmy's mother started sleeping with Luciano, who was apparently a really important character, I had no idea who he was until the show reminded me a couple of episodes later.)
Oh, I was the exact same, though I do like Mad Men but I can see how those "historically accurate" aren't for everyone. The cinematography of Boardwalk Empire always gets me, it's an absolutely stunning show. Scorese is a man of many talents; any episode he directs is bound to be gold. :)
Linndechir: baratheonlinndechir on August 8th, 2011 04:23 pm (UTC)
Yes, sometimes Boardwalk Empire was a bit confusing, when you were like, "okay, I've seen this guy before, but who is he? who is he working for? what did he do three episodes ago?"
I usually love historical stuff that at least tries to be accurate and not completely absurd, so I was really surprised that I didn't like Mad Men. I can acknowledge that it's really well done, but somehow none of the characters or storylines got me invested. I'm probably missing out on something, but Mad Men just bored me most of the time.
Scorcese is great. I really need to watch some of his older movies that I haven't seen yet.
it's always darkest before the dawn.amelia_scars on August 8th, 2011 04:38 pm (UTC)
I was like that all the time; it was worse when they were in Nucky's office and they were discussing the people the audience is supposed to know. Like, "who's Flemming? And why do I care about this man, again?"
The flaw Mad Men has is that it takes an absurd amount of time for the writers to really delve into a storyline. There was a romantic plot about Peggy and Pete that wasn't resolved until halfway through Season 2. And sometimes they would start a really important plot, postpone it, not bring it up for a season, and then finally dig it back up two seasons later.
The man who influenced Steven Spielberg and Quentin Tarantino. I was trying to get some of Scorsese's films from the 60's and 70's, no such luck as of yet but still trying. :)
Linndechir: hellstromlinndechir on August 8th, 2011 04:42 pm (UTC)
Yep. Even if you recognise the people, how are you supposed to remember everyone's name? Especially if it's a side character whose name got mentioned once or twice.

I think I only watched the first five or so episodes of Mad Men, and I just felt like nothing was happening. The actors were good, the general setting and feel of the show were absolutely amazing, but after a few episodes I still had no idea why I should care about any of these people. Or like anything was happening to them that should get me interested.
Ah, Tarantino. Damn, is Tarantino ever going to make another movie? Or has he decided that after the perfection that was Inglourious Basterds he's just going to retire and shoot fake trailers? ;)
it's always darkest before the dawn.amelia_scars on August 8th, 2011 04:54 pm (UTC)
Well, nothing is happening, really. The writers use the "tension-building" technique so much, but they apologize for it by doing something unexpected like having Peggy sleep with a disgusting old man who gives the most disgusting speech ever. Did I mention he's disgusting, yet? But yeah, I've been watching for so long that I'm continuing for closure, probably. Either that or Aaron Staton.

I think after Inglourious Basterds he thought, "Well, that was good. Think I'll go sleep now." Apparently he has some "potential projects" but it'll probably come to nothing.
Linndechir: baratheonlinndechir on August 8th, 2011 04:56 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I suppose at some point you just want to know how it will end, but I never got that far. I just gave up fairly quickly.

I always hear of his projects he would like to do, but it always takes ages with him. Tbh, I can understand how he doesn't really know what to do that could possibly be better than IB. It might just be his masterpiece. ;)

Argh, and speaking of shows, it's driving me insane that all this casting news for Game of Thrones is all over the place, and they're filming now, and that just FEELS like season 2 is coming soon ... except that it isn't, it will only come next year.
it's always darkest before the dawn.amelia_scars on August 8th, 2011 05:05 pm (UTC)
Aside from the postponing-of-plotlines-people-care-about, the writers are getting pretty arrogant. Season five isn't coming until next September, gah.

He can take as long as he has to, as long as he brings out something as good as IB. Though he couldn't possibly hope to top Pulp Fiction or Kill Bill, he'll come out with something amazing either way. :)

SPRING OF NEXT YEAR. WHYYYYYYY. Just imagine how much more news is going to be coming over the next few months. It's an advertising technique, so people won't be all like, "Game of Thrones? Huh, forgot all about that." Oh silly people, don't they know what they've done is unforgettable, and the casting news is just evil? I'm just glad the casting is amazing, otherwise I'd be just annoyed that they insist on showing us terrible news.
Linndechir: baratheonlinndechir on August 8th, 2011 05:11 pm (UTC)
I hate the long waits between seasons. Whoever thought that one season per year was a good thing? Especially for shows with 10-12 episodes per season, and not 24.

I have complete trust in Tarantino. Even his less good movies are still fun to watch.

I'm still sad I didn't get my dream cast for Stannis, but I knew that from the beginning, so it's not like I had any real hope. But it really is so teasing ... the casting news, and little confusing hints at what they keep or change ... it's going to be insane.
Also, I almost wish ADWD had only come out in autumn this year, then the wait between ADWD+season 1 and season 2 would have felt shorter. ;)
Generally, speaking of the one season per year problem ... how is that supposed to work with the kid actors? Bran and Arya are still children in ADWD and presumably also in the later books. But their actors (who are already older than their characters) will be fairly grown-up in season 5,6,7, if we ever get that far. :/
it's always darkest before the dawn.amelia_scars on August 8th, 2011 05:49 pm (UTC)
A crazy, sadisitic person, surely. With shows that have 22-24 episodes, I can understand the break in between but the whole system of one season a year just feels a tad bit elitist.

Who did you originally want for Stannis, just out of curiosity? The man they chose (who, for the life me, I can't remember his name) certainly has the face for it here's hoping they can turn him into Stannis. I'm a bit "meh" about them bringing things in from other books and putting them in an earlier context; like the scene from Season 1 where Catelyn smashes Jaime with the rock. Keep the scenes where they are, please.

Agreed, if only to have something to tide the fans over until the television series. Oh, but we're so spoiled. :)

I have absolutely no idea; it's a bit worrying with Sansa, as well. I just hope they're not going to recast or do something stupid like saying, "Oh well, just pretend she's tall for her age." It's something I worry about in The Walking Dead as well. I hope we'll get as far as season 7; sure, we have the views now but what will the audience think of the future plotlines?
Linndechir: baratheonlinndechir on August 8th, 2011 06:03 pm (UTC)
Yep. With those 10 episode seasons, you have a show running for two and a half months, and then nothing for almost ten months? Ten months in which people will start watching other stuff and forget all about the show?

I wanted Mark Strong for Stannis, but I knew that was never going to happen. His movie career has kicked off so well in the last few years, and I think he actually decided at some point to stop playing in TV productions (if GoT had been made ten years ago ... *sigh*). I mean, I'm happy to see the guy in big movies now, but it still makes me sad that he has become too big for Game of Thrones, especially for a character who will be around for a long time (unlike Ned; I doubt Sean Bean would have agreed otherwise).
But Strong would have been perfect. He looks EXACTLY as Stannis is described: balding, black hair, strong jaw, sharp gaunt features, thick eyebrows, and incredibly piercing eyes (they're green and not blue, but still, that man's glare is epic). Have a look at this. He's one of the best actors of his generation, imo, and he has this kind of harsh, determined strength about him that I love so much in Stannis. Buuuut as I said, I knew that was just a dream.
Stephen Dillane doesn't look exactly like I imagined Stannis, but I've heard that he's apparently a good actor, so I hope that's true. I really hope they'll either shave part of his hair, or dye it black. He's already fairly grey, and that's not at all what Stannis is supposed to look like.

Well, with Sansa it's okay, I supposed, because even now she already looks like a teenage girl, not a little child. I think making her look a bit younger when she's 20 will be do-able. But how are Arya's and Bran's actors going to look like little kids once they're 18? There's only so much you can do with make-up and lighting.
it's always darkest before the dawn.amelia_scars on August 8th, 2011 06:19 pm (UTC)
Expensive, out-of-the-ordinary shows I can understand needing a longer hiatus. (Boardwalk Empire's first episode costed nearly 20 million dollars, gah. For television? Seriously?) But with other shows it's just feels ridiculous.

MARK STRONG. As soon as I saw the picspam, I was like YES. I remember seeing as an absolute BAMF in Kick-Ass and Robin Hood. He has those "noble" features and he definetly has the airs for it. He would have been amazing, I hope arrogance wasn't the reason he didn't go for it, though.
It is unfortunate when dream-casting comes to nothing and Strong would've been the ideal Stannis, 'tis true. For your sake at least, I hope Stephen Dillane rises up to the role. He wasn't Stannis-esque in the pictures I saw but modern make-up can do wonders.

Natalie Dormer as Maergary has more sceptical, come to think of it. The actress is in her late twenties, she's already older than Finn Jones who plays her "older brother." She's going to be at least halfway through her thirties in season 6. And Arya and Bran's characters are inevitably going to get taller, more defined and they are going to physically change. I haven't a clue how they're going to keep them young on-screen.
Linndechir: baratheonlinndechir on August 8th, 2011 06:28 pm (UTC)
Mark Strong is easily my favourite actor ever. So I obviously had to think of him with a character who looks exactly like him. ^^ That man has KING STANNIS THE AWESOME written all over his forehead.
I hope arrogance wasn't the reason he didn't go for it, though.
I'm pretty sure it wasn't. I've seen tons of interviews with Strong, he seems to be one of the most down-to-earth, normal, uncomplicated actors ever. But he spend a good twenty years or so of his life doing mainly TV, and now he's suddenly playing in all kinds of great movie productions in Hollywood. Giving that up to commit to a role in a TV show that's (hopefully) going to run for several years? I doubt any actor in his position would have done that.
I'm going to trust the casting directors and be hopeful. So far there has only been one huge miscast (Shae). I will not complain until I see the first episode, and only then will I judge. I'm being a good girl here. But I will cut a bitch if I don't get a promo picture with Stannis on the Iron Throne. ;)

Dormer is way too old, yes. Okay, i get that she looks a bit like Finn, and that she looks younger than her 29, but still. Margaery is supposed to be only a little bit older than Sansa, and less than half Cersei's age. Dormer is going to look more like a grown woman, like Cersei, not like a sweet young maiden. It feels like a cast in which they just wanted to get a bigger name rather than some 20-year-old nobody ever heard of.
With Arya and Bran it's going to be downright impossible. Girls often look still young enough in their teenage years, face-wise, but her body won't be that of a little girl anymore. It's gonna be weird.
it's always darkest before the dawn.amelia_scars on August 8th, 2011 06:46 pm (UTC)
He absolutely MADE Kick-Ass for me, stole every scene he was in; I didn't even realize he was British, to be honest. And damn, can that man wear armor. Such a shame.
I suppose there comes a point when an actor wants to do something different. He is a really versatile actor; going from Duke to mobster to Sir. Oh well, c'est la vie. :)
I'm surprised at the controlled attitude towards the casting; most are either extremely upset or extremely satisfied. The casting director hasn't messed up yet, but then again, yet is an uneasy term.

Dormer is less than ten years younger than Lena Headey, and she's going to be potrayed as being half her age? She resembles Finn and she is a talented actress but could they really make the audience believe that she's that young? Finn looks young enough as it is without being compared to Natalie Dormer.
When Arya does grow up - normal adolescence; breasts, hips, legs, height etc - they're not going to be able to hide the fact that she's grown up and men often appear older than they already are and so Bran is going to be particularly difficult
Linndechir: baratheonlinndechir on August 8th, 2011 06:56 pm (UTC)
I didn't even realize he was British, to be honest.
He has an incredible talent for accents. I've heard him do so many accents, Cockney, RP, different American accents, foreign accents (his Arabic accent in Body of Lies, pure beauty) ... and it always works. He's like the opposite of Gerard Butler. ;) And, yes, he's incredibly versatile. My fangirling for him knows no bounds. That man can do more with his eyes and one little twitch of his mouth than most actors achieve in an entire movie. I've seen him angry, sad, hurt, happy, mischievous, scheming, broken, cruel, crying ... [insert more fangirling]
I suppose he's just happy that he's finally so successful, that he gets to work with great directors and other great actors in big productions. I think I even remember an interview a few years ago in which he said that he had decided to focus on his movie career now, that an actor's career is long and that he wants to do different things. (I think it was in reply to a question about him playing so many villains, and he was just like, "so I've played a few villains recently, I've also played everything else.")

From what I've heard there was apparently quite a bit of wank before season 1 even aired, with many people disliking certain cast choices. I think season 1 has reassured people that the casting director knows their job, so right now everyone is fairly confident that the new casting will be as good as the old. Even though I seriously don't know what book they read when they cast Shae. I don't think it was ASOIAF.

Dormer does look younger than she is, but not young enough. I mean, it's nice that she has the same smirk as Finn, but that shouldn't be enough. I'm extremely sceptical about this. Mainly because I fear that they will have to reinterpret Margaery's character and have her behave much more grown-up than she is in the books.
And about the kids ... yeah, no idea how that is supposed to work. The producers must have thought of this, I wonder what they're planning to do.
it's always darkest before the dawn.amelia_scars on August 8th, 2011 07:14 pm (UTC)
I remember in Kick-Ass, he had this badass, Brooklyn-esque accent and I was practically gaping whenever he came on, "Want. Now. Please." I'll have to look into seeing more of his films, and then be miserable about him not being Stannis.
He's done a considerable amount of television, according to his Wikipedia. Just from that I can see maybe he should be moving on, painful as it is. I don't know, sticking to doing the same thing, television, would get stale after a while and someone must've recognized his talent and given him his chance.

Some of the wank merely came from uncertainty; those people didn't get the whole "these people are casted for a reason." Season 1 has definetly smoothed over the casting process and made fans pliable to future casting choices because they've shown the wonders of make-up and costume and the actor's skills. I've heard people saying that they didn't like book!Shae and much preferred the show version but that doesn't justify completely taking the opposite direction with her.

I've only ever seen Dormer as the "head bitch in charge" as the internet so eloquently calls it, I've never seen her play anything else and am extremely curious why they chose her. Her and Finn do look related; the smirk, the nose, the cheeky demeanor but no, simple mannerisms and appearence couldn't be the sole reason they cast her. I hope they don't decide to make her as cheeky as Loras or as frivolous.
They wouldn't have attempted the show otherwise, because obviously they have some sort of plan as to keep the characters looking the same. How they plan how doing that is a complete mystery.
Linndechir: cigarlinndechir on August 8th, 2011 07:29 pm (UTC)
He was the best thing about Kick Ass. I love how effortlessly he does his accents. I remember that when I watched Kick Ass, somewhere in the middle of the movie I was like, "hey, wait, he sounds American. he sounds so perfectly American that I didn't even remember for an hour that he's a Londoner."
You are aware that you just offered me an opportunity to spam you with movie recs, right? I will never miss an opportunity to convert other people to Mark Strong's brilliance. So, if you need more Mark Strong in your life ...
- the afore-mentioned Body of Lies. The plot is not that incredible, but DiCaprio is doing a fairly good job, and this is one of Strong's best, most intense performances. Also the movie in which he both looks and sounds so Middle Eastern that most people thought his accent was genuine.
- The Long Firm. TV mini-series, one of the few things with Strong playing the lead. Possibly his best role. Complex character, and he gets to show off just how great an actor he is, instead of getting only two short scenes.
- Stardust. 'cos it's fun. And Mark looks cool in black leather. ;)
- Rocknrolla. The entire movie is awesome, but Strong in BAMF mode is the best thing ever. The origin of the legendary Archie Slap.
- well, there's also Guy Ritchie's Sherlock Holmes. Strong's role was kinda bland, but he was still so epic that I rooted for him and not for Holmes. oO
... and I'll stop now before I rec every single movie he's ever been in. Sorry if you already knew all of these. Watch them, and then cry that he's not Stannis. ;)

I found show!Shae absolutely obnoxious. Nothing worse than these "look at how mysterious I am" characters. But even IF you like show!Shae better, she just won't fit the storyline. The main reason Tyrion trusts Shae is because she seems totally sweet and likeable, not because she's all cheeky and mysterious.

"frivolous" is such a Stannis word. I can hear him using it ... all the time. ^^ I think we pretty much agree on Dormer. She'll have to do an incredible job to pull off Margaery convincingly, and I don't know yet if she's that good an actress (and if the makeup will be that good ;)). We'll just have to wait and see.

Maybe the producers will bring magic back in the world to give the kids eternal youth.
it's always darkest before the dawn.amelia_scars on August 8th, 2011 07:41 pm (UTC)
SPAM AWAY. (Is the Sherlock Holmes you're recommending the one with Robert Downey Jr? I've seen that, unfortunately didn't know about Mark Strong's existence, shame on me) I'll give them a look, mainly because BAMF Strong is the BAMFiest of BAMFs.

I never said that I liked show!Shae; didn't like Shae in the books, sure as hell don't like her now. She just doesn't fit and her accent grates on the nerves and if there comes an episode where they describe her "oh-so-tragic" back story, I'mma hurt someone's feelings. All that aside, book!Shae was better suited for Shae than the German abomination they casted, for crying out loud.

My thesaurus is a wonderful thing. :) Yep, you say that now after our monster discussion. ^^

The dragons did bring magic back into the world, maybe it extends into reality?
Linndechir: everyone dieslinndechir on August 8th, 2011 07:50 pm (UTC)
Yes, it's the one with Robert Downey Jr. Strong played the bad guy, Blackwood. I don't blame you for not remembering, the role really wasn't all that impressive ("Imma gonna go conquer and rule the world, yay"). I think Strong is BAMFy in every single role he plays. He's also in one episode of Sharpe, getting fanboyed at by Sean Bean and strangling people with a whip, which is disturbingly hot.

God, her accent. The actress is German? I feel ashamed for my country's export articles. ;) Her accent just sounds fake, whatever it's supposed to be. Everything about her is so fake that I just can't see how Tyrion is going to be so crazy about her. Worst thing? I can't even enjoy her death, because Tywin dies right afterwards and I adore Tywin. :(

Well, we just spent a long time agreeing with each other. And I so need an icon with "frivolous!" on it.

That would be pretty cool, although I hope the dragons don't extend into reality as well.
it's always darkest before the dawn.amelia_scars on August 8th, 2011 08:01 pm (UTC)
I'm trying to remember but coming up blank. I'm sure I would've remember Strong BAMFiness. Ooh, be giving that a look, so. Disturbingly hot and whip just belong together.

Apparently, she's pretty big over there, for whatever reason. I heard a rumor that she did porn and if that's true, WHAT WERE THEY THINKING. Oh gosh, Charles Dance deserves better than to have his character's death followed by a nasal, annoying untalented actress. I also feel kind of bad for Richard Dinklage, having to pretend he feels anything for her. Gah.

We did, didn't we? Oh well. You should try for one with a stag in the background or Mark Strong, if you're sane.

No, no. Just the mildly pleasant parts of their existence.
Linndechir: baratheonlinndechir on August 8th, 2011 08:11 pm (UTC)
You can watch the entire Sharpe series, if you like, it's fun. At least if you like Sean Bean. Strong is only in one episode, but I can't remember which one, you'd have to look that up.

I just looked up her name, and I've never heard of her before. Okay, tbh I'm not a big fan of German cinema anyway, but I seriously have never even seen her name anywhere, so I doubt she's that well-known.
Oh, Charles Dance. I thought Tywin was badass in the books, but Dance just makes him better, and who would have thought that even possible? Can't wait for him telling Cersei and Joffrey to shut up and let him run things. Easily one of my favourite characters in the series. In the beginning he was just badass, but the more we found out about him, about how he loved his wife, his brother, how he stood up for his sister when he was TEN YEARS OLD ... The guy is a monster to his children, but apparently he was a great husband and brother.

I'm no good at making icons, or graphics. Because I need a stag (or Mark ;)) with a big FRIVOLOUS on it. I generally need some Stannis icons. If only for those typical Stannis sentences ... short and terse and with a really subtle deadpan humour. And pretty Stannis/Sansa stuff to spam everyone with.

Ah, that's better. I think I'd like a direwolf pup.
Alexandra Leaving: Photos - Summer fruitalexandral on August 8th, 2011 02:32 pm (UTC)
I hope the sprain is not serious and your poorly ankle gets better soon!
it's always darkest before the dawn.amelia_scars on August 8th, 2011 04:00 pm (UTC)
Thank you, bb! There is some advantage to being slightly injured though; I don't have to move off my lazy behind. But I fear it's mostly healed and now I have to function normally. WHYYYYYY. No more ladders for me, I tell you.
roboticduckroboticduck on August 9th, 2011 01:23 am (UTC)
I have not yet dipped my toes into the Bon Iver pool, but he is playing here this week and it made me think of you :D I like how music becomes that intertwined with people :)

ANKLE IS BETTER, Y/N? Yikes, SMH at gravity.
it's always darkest before the dawn.: Richard Maddenamelia_scars on August 9th, 2011 01:39 am (UTC)
DIP. DIP YOUR TOES IN THE GLORIOUS WATERS OF HIS TIMBRE. I want to be wherever he's playing, IT'S NOT FAIR. And thank you for the thought. :)

IT'S FINE, BB. It's just a mild stinging now, it's all good in the hood. Gravity is a bitch, 'tis true. At least I wasn't hit on the head by an apple, right? (That is the geekiest reference I've ever made. And that's saying something).